I need advice PLZ....edited after getting more details.

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I need advice PLZ....edited after getting more details.

I've been teaching a friend, her name is Tonya, common law through Bill Thorntons website and lectures. She was driving on a suspended Washington State license and got pulled over in Idaho, arrested and her car impounded. I was visiting family during Christmas and called her. When she didn't answer I knew something was up. I got a call from her this evening saying she has been in jail for 3 weeks. When she went before the judge she pleaded Not Guilty and she knew better....(Mistake, I Know) However she said she was just trying to get out is the reason she made a plea at all. They told her she would have been out after 8 days if she pled guilty. She signed her plea papers "without prejudice" and she said when one of the officers read it, he tore it up. Her bail is 2000$ and she's got a bond reduction hearing get on the 12th of January. She was crying and she doesn't know what to do....And being as she is still in jail, I don't know what to do. She asked me if she should fire her public defender. I personally would but I told her to wait because I thought maybe she should wait to get out of jail first and then fire him. She has no resources in there to help her. What should she do? I'm guessing just wait till she's out unless they keep her in there through the whole process. I have already learned a lot just helping Corbantheman with his case, but this is a little different because I don't know what her next step would be being as she's stuck in there.

Misspink
Writ of Habeas Corpus

I'm not really qualified to give advice, since I'm learning myself but from my studies, I would suggest filing a Counterclaim in a court of record and Writ of Habeas Corpus in a court of record. I would wait from advice from M.R. Hamilton but maybe you can do some research on it in the meantime.

thomasbenson
regarding your question

When dealing with the courts, traffic tickets, etc., when you go to court, the first thing you must do is challenge the jurisdiction of the court.There are 20 different Supreme Court Decisions that say once the jurisdiction of the court has been challenged, it is up to the Plaintiff to prove it on the record. If the judge moves the court forward without jurisdiction being proven, it is treason, according to the Supreme court. I would also recommend she create a court of record for her rights being violated, but she must understand that she is not a driver, she is not in commerce, or operating a motor vehicle.

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Use the habeas corpus in this thread

Use the habeas corpus and the cover letter in this thread. https://afreecountry.com/?q=node/1374 Adapt it for her and mail it by certified mail to the SCOTUS. The address for
SCOTUS is on the cover letter. We have more evidence of treason that we will be releasing soon, but we have to get a counterclaim file for her first. Start with he habeas corpus. Make sure that she withdraws her plea ASAP. She needs to fire the attorney ASAP, since hiring an attorney is automatic consent to the inferior court.

Make sure sho knows not to say that she is pro se and do not sign any documents to have the court "grant permission" for her to represent herself, that is just another trick to get her back into the inferior court's jurisdiction.

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ERROR 403 on the link.

Hi, Mike! I got error 403 on the habeas corpus link. https://afreecountry.com/?q=node/1374 Yes I was logged in.

Robyn Lansford

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Try clearing your browser cache

Try clearing your browser cache. You are listed as a member and should have access.

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I tried to clear my cache

i cleared my browser cache and still got error 403. I use a android tablet and I have a iPad. I tried to access the link on both and got error 403. Not sure what's going on. I can make it to the member forums but even in the past some of the links were errors. She is going to fire her public defender and withdraw her plea. How would she go about withdrawing a plea? Thanks Mike....you are an upstanding dude and I am more than willing to lend any help wherever you could use it. Like I said before....I am pretty well in understanding common law. I've spent months, weeks, days, and hours listening to Bill Thornton's lectures over and over but when it comes to paperwork I'm pretty rusty, but I'm constantly learning and getting better on that end. If you could maybe email that habeas corpus my email is Robynlansford@gmail.com

Robyn Lansford

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I can dio that

Well, I don't have a clue why you can't follow the link and have access to the member forum. /is the 403 an access denied message or something else?

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It worked this time

OK...I finally got the habeas corpus link to work. Not sure what was going on. Question....I can't send this on her behalf can I? I'll be writing it as if I'm her correct? Do I mail it to her in jail and let her file the habeas corpus? And she has to fire her public defender and withdraw her please first before I can send this correct? 

Robyn Lansford

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You can do a habeas corpus.

Any sovereign can do a habeas corpus for any other sovereign. When you write it, upload it after starting a thread for her in the member forum.

M. R. Hamilton
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I'll be Starting Tonya Roberts v. Idaho in the member forum

Hi Mike! Tonya was released on her own recognizance OR'd. I just got off the phone with her public defender who told me she won't withdraw the not guilty plea. She informed me that if she withdraws the plea, Tonya will have to enter a guilty plea. I informed the public defender that she might be added to the counterclaim if Tonya chooses. I found some Idaho codes about common law I think will pertain to the case. I am going to star Tonya Roberts v The State of Idaho in the member forum and will link to those Idaho codes from there. Her pretrial conference is on February 1st so I'm going down to the library right now to start writing up the counterclaim. It will probably take a few days because we just requested the discovery today. It will be here in the mail in a few days. Anyway I'm going to start Tonya v Idaho right now in the member forum.

Robyn Lansford

tiddytat
Error 403

I can not enter the member forum.  Please verify that you received my membership dues, and correct my membership. I need to study in the membership forum area...city is coming after me, even though I do not even live in the city.  thank you so much

alleycat

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Have you emailed your tracking number?

I have not received an email with your tracking number yet. The mailbox is in Texas, so I cannot verify until it is forwarded to me. If you sent with a tracking number as instructed, send it to me and I wll grant access.

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tiddytat
tracking number

I sent a letter to your address in Texas, along with member dues....did you get it?

alleycat

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I cannot say

I am not in Texas. That is why the instructions specify to send with a tracking number. I get the mail about every two weeks.

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tiddytat
my error

I thought that was only for silver dollar tracking

alleycat

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It is for racking the silver dollar.

 That is all that is accepted for payment for dues.

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You now have access.

I promoted you. You should have access.

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Xj Digger
Think in terms of being an american.

Being an american is the authority over the government with all of the ordainment rights.

You need to understand the two Americas.

a free and independent land as its own nation.

or a business for profit corporation owned by the international banker and managed by the BAR Lawyer

The evil corporation has kidnapped Tonya with presumptions that she is a subject to their rule.

Tonya needs to state who she is and demand a bill of particulars immediately and file a good habeas corpus in her hand writing demanding an immediate magistrate who is on duty 24 hours a day.

They stole her private property and wants it returned immediately and file claims against the thieves who stole her property.

She has been treated with barratry, personage and false and malicious arrest, conspired by two or more people using the color of law without due process of the law of the land, to do great harm while committing no crime against another people.

Tonya needs to dump the attorney and speak to the magistrate in writing filed at the registry and on the court as a sue juris speaking for herself in flesh and blood and God as her witness.

Tonya is allowed her own counsel and that is anyone she chooses to help her speak.

She needs to speak to the district attorney and get all charging instruments, records and bill of particulars and a statement of jurisdiction being filled and present him/her with the court filing.

This needs to be done as soon as possible before a magistrate to get her released

 

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I would send the habeas to SCOTUS

It may be beneficial to send the habeas to SCOTUS as well. We are using a template in the member forum that was sent to the SCOTUS that resulted in the originator being freed with an apology.

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